by Ron Joseph
April, 2004
Automotive Paint Peeling Defect
Q. I have a question about a car paint problem.
We have a 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited in black color with 42,000 miles.
Overall, the paint job looks very good. We take care of the car waxing it regularly
and keep it in a garage when not used. We live in Indian Wells, California (California
desert near Palm Springs).
We just noticed two places on the drivers rear wheel panel where the outer
or finish layer of paint has peeled away. One area is about 2 x 3" and
the other is about 1 x 1.5". The edges and shape is irregular. It is the
glossy finished layer(s) that have peeled off leaving a matt black undercoat(s).
This is a very recent discovery. We don't see this anywhere else on the car
yet. And no, the place where the paint is peeling is not close to where the
gas tank is filled.
I know you cannot give any definitive answers based on an email. At this
point, I only need to get an approximate probability based on your experience
as to what you think the cause might be. Would you lean more toward a manufacturers
defect or something corrosive spilling on the car or reaction to some type of
cleaning compound used on the car or fumes in the garage or ???.
Before I go running to the Toyota dealer about this, I need to have some
idea about the possibilities and probabilities. If it was most likely this was
a mfg. defect, I would probably want an analysis and expert witness evaluation
to make sure before I ever contact Toyota. Of all the areas of product warranty,
auto paint jobs seem to be the hardest to get the mfg. to agree to. But I have
no idea if that is even a possibility to be considered though it seems strange
to us. A car in this quality range shouldn't have outer paint layers peeling
like this at all and especially at this age.
Thanks for your time,
Don Shapiro
Indian Wells, California
A. In all probability what you have described is a paint defect that is likely
to be due to the painting that was performed at the manufacturer's facility.
It is less likely that the problem was caused by you, and even if it was the
paint should probably have stood up to the environment.
We have been involved in similar problems in the past and automotive dealerships
are often very reluctant to accept responsibility . If you need help to determine
the cause of failure we are available, but in the meantime I suggest that you
discuss this with the dealer at which the Toyota purchased and see how he responds.
It is possible that company will simply take the car into the paint shop and
repair the defect with no further questions asked .
If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to get back to us .
Best wishes,
Ron Joseph |